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Predator - prey relationships
(05-20-2019, 01:26 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: Because they are caught alone. If they were in a pack, maybe they could kill the large snake.
I'd be rather interested in a group interaction, considering Boas are often mobbed while eating Animals, like Coati and Primates, but generally end up unscathed.

Boa Constrictor with a young Deer.

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(05-20-2019, 09:22 AM)ImperialPuma Wrote: Does this count?


Why wouldn’t it count? Do you think it’s scavenging? Because:
Meat-eating by adult female Sumatran orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus abelii). Wrote:Information about meat-eating behavior by wild orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus) is scant. The first article about such a case dates from 1981. Since 1989, seven incidents of adult female Sumatran orangutans eating slow lorises (Nycticebus coucang) have been witnessed. Three females from two study sites were involved. In three cases the females were seen catching the prey. There are too few cases to conclude whether this behavior is typically female.
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(05-20-2019, 01:26 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: Because they are caught alone. If they were in a pack, maybe they could kill the large snake.

pack is the advantage but alone would be easy meal!
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The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.
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(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

by larger boa not by smaller or similar size!

Python strangles 60lb Siberian husky to death after slithering into back yard

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(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

show me any picture or video for your reference, please don't send me an account belong to century ago!
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(05-21-2019, 11:09 AM)onlyfaizy786 Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

by larger boa not by smaller or similar size!

Python strangles 60lb Siberian husky to death after slithering into back yard

www.irishmirror.ie/news/python-strangles-60lb-siberian-husky-2271099

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(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

show me any picture or video for your reference, please don't send me an account belong to century ago!
So you used a domestic dog (when you frequently say domestic isnt comparable to wild) and then use a fake photo.

https://www.earthtouchnews.com/wtf/wtf/i...l-or-fake/

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I do not have a picture or a video of a Boa constrictor preying upon an Ocelot. This kind of predatory behavior is described in literature, and it is easy to search on Google "Boa constrictor kills Ocelot". Maybe Shenzi has some pictures or videos about it.
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(05-21-2019, 11:20 AM)Bloodborne Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 11:09 AM)onlyfaizy786 Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

by larger boa not by smaller or similar size!

Python strangles 60lb Siberian husky to death after slithering into back yard

www.irishmirror.ie/news/python-strangles-60lb-siberian-husky-2271099

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(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

show me any picture or video for your reference, please don't send me an account belong to century ago!
So you used a domestic dog (when you frequently say domestic isnt comparable to wild) and then use a fake photo.

https://www.earthtouchnews.com/wtf/wtf/i...l-or-fake/

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i am on my words even rock python can kill hyena more look like dog but belong to different family. Here is another reference where fox being killed by smaller python. So as i told canid are more easier to kill for python and boa because they dont have any grappling ability for defense.

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(05-21-2019, 11:23 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: I do not have a picture or a video of a Boa constrictor preying upon an Ocelot. This kind of predatory behavior is described in literature, and it is easy to search on Google "Boa constrictor kills Ocelot". Maybe Shenzi has some pictures or videos about it.

as i told i didn't deny the predatory skill, boa and python are capable to take down any animal with their constrictor coils, but they need size advantage to control large felids,as i am saying larger python rarely hunt ocelot , and mr shenzi shows the picture of green anaconda killed ocelot.
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Nobody knows for sure how often a canid, a hyaenid, or a felid is preyed upon by a large constrictor snake. As I said before, a pack of canids or a clan of hyenas could kill a large constrictor snake. Also, a singe large felid (lion, tiger, jaguar, leopard) could kill a large constrictor snake. To kill a large constrictor snake, mammals must find strenght in number or in body size. Otherwise, they will be preyed upon themselves by the large constrictor snake.
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(05-22-2019, 05:48 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: Nobody knows for sure how often a canid, a hyaenid, or a felid is preyed upon by a large constrictor snake. As I said before, a pack of canids or a clan of hyenas could kill a large constrictor snake. Also, a singe large felid (lion, tiger, jaguar, leopard) could kill a large constrictor snake. To kill a large constrictor snake, mammals must find strenght in number or in body size. Otherwise, they will be preyed upon themselves by the large constrictor snake.

Look at the video below leopard vs larger python, snake tried harder to coil the leopard but the snake got the leopard paw, the leopard bite it back to the neck and broke it. its hard to coil the strongest big cats. felids are two quicker to kill and best at their defense and harder to kill for any constrictor snake. In other hand larger canid unable to kill smaller constrictor snake and killed by them.







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There are other factors too. Snakes are less active in the morning or in the evening, and they are easier to kill by a large felid. Also, small- to medium-sized, sick, weak, older, or juvenile canids and hyaenids are easy prey for large constrictor snakes.
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(05-22-2019, 06:40 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: There are other factors too. Snakes are less active in the morning or in the evening, and they are easier to kill by a large felid. Also, sick, weak, older, or juvenile canids are preyed upon by large constrictor snakes.

many evidence of snake killed in night by leopard and even smaller mustelid honey badger. At parity snake dont have chance at face to face fight. From ambush isn't easier for snakes, as we see in this footage where leopard can easily fight back from snakes attack and killed them.
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This is because leopards are too heavy and too strong to be preyed upon by a large constrictor snake. But I was not talking about large felids versus large constrictor snakes. I said in the Neotropical Region the small- to medium-sized felids (like the ocelot or the jaguarundi) are preyed upon by the Boa constrictor. I do not have pictures or videos about such predatory behavior, but this is mentioned in the (scientific) literature.

Also, I am sure if the living canid and hyaenid species were bigger and stronger (the size and strength of a leopard or a jaguar), they could kill alone a large constrictor snake. Otherwise, a red fox or a spotted hyena is smaller and weaker than a leopard or a jaguar, and so they are preyed upon by the large constrictor snakes.
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(05-22-2019, 03:30 PM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: This is because leopards are too heavy and too strong to be preyed upon by a large constrictor snake. But I was not talking about large felids versus large constrictor snakes. I said in the Neotropical Region the small- to medium-sized felids (like the ocelot or the jaguarundi) are preyed upon by the Boa constrictor. I do not have pictures or videos about such predatory behavior, but this is mentioned in the (scientific) literature.

Also, I am sure if the living canid and hyaenid species were bigger and stronger (the size and strength of a leopard or a jaguar), they could kill alone a large constrictor snake. Otherwise, a red fox or a spotted hyena is smaller and weaker than a leopard or a jaguar, and so they are preyed upon by the large constructor snakes.
Leopard is not heavy almost similar to python, and there is only 1 proper account available, where 6 kg jaguarundi taken by approximately 15 kg large boa.  Do any evidence about parity? Please share. And most importantly literature are taken by these type of incidents. Where larger snake can feeds on smaller felids. And tje same thing implement from large felid to smaller. Or at parity the only way for snake to chase down felid in water, where snakes are more flexible.

Here is the picture of female leopard vs female rock python. Just look at the size almost similar.

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(05-22-2019, 05:35 AM)onlyfaizy786 Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 11:20 AM)Bloodborne Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 11:09 AM)onlyfaizy786 Wrote:
(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

by larger boa not by smaller or similar size!

Python strangles 60lb Siberian husky to death after slithering into back yard

www.irishmirror.ie/news/python-strangles-60lb-siberian-husky-2271099

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(05-21-2019, 05:33 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: The medium-sized Neotropical felids, like the ocelot (Leopardus pardalis), are also preyed upon by the Boa constrictor.

show me any picture or video for your reference, please don't send me an account belong to century ago!
So you used a domestic dog (when you frequently say domestic isnt comparable to wild) and then use a fake photo.

https://www.earthtouchnews.com/wtf/wtf/i...l-or-fake/

10/10
i am on my words even rock python can kill hyena more look like dog but belong to different family. Here is another reference where fox being killed by smaller python. So as i told canid are more easier to kill for python and boa because they dont have any grappling ability for defense.

Python killed adult hyena 
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/image...YkFOMhDtsL


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https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/ne...n/1607850/

python kill jackel
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(05-21-2019, 11:23 AM)Claudiu Constantin Nicolaescu Wrote: I do not have a picture or a video of a Boa constrictor preying upon an Ocelot. This kind of predatory behavior is described in literature, and it is easy to search on Google "Boa constrictor kills Ocelot". Maybe Shenzi has some pictures or videos about it.

as i told i didn't deny the predatory skill, boa and python are capable to take down any animal with their constrictor coils, but they need size advantage to control large felids,as i am saying larger python rarely hunt ocelot , and mr shenzi shows the picture of green anaconda killed ocelot.
There is similar info of Snakes eating Felines, you just use bullshit excuses to ignore it.

Anyway I know your just trying to make Cats look good because you love them so much, so dont expect another reply.
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