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Big territorial male leopards; Only territorial male leopards starting 60 kilograms a
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(09-28-2018, 04:54 AM)Leopard Wrote: Could this explain why lions tend to maul a male instead of going for clean bite to the neck? I've yet to find evidence where a lion killed a leopard like they do with hyena's or cheetah's.

It could be becouse of its defensive posture, making it difficult to actually for the kill but still.

There is a difference between "lion killing hyena" and "lion killing adult leopard". "Leopard killing leopard" and "leopard killing hyena". Leopards and hyenas are different animals.
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A Leopard from Golestan National National Park

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https://www.earthtouchnews.com/conservat...ast-stand/
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(09-29-2018, 06:35 AM)Forbiddenip Wrote:
(09-28-2018, 04:54 AM)Leopard Wrote: Could this explain why lions tend to maul a male instead of going for clean bite to the neck? I've yet to find evidence where a lion killed a leopard like they do with hyena's or cheetah's.

It could be becouse of its defensive posture, making it difficult to actually for the kill but still.

There is a difference between "lion killing hyena" and "lion killing adult leopard". "Leopard killing leopard" and "leopard killing hyena". Leopards and hyenas are different animals.

Well that's why I'm wondering if it has to do with their dewlaps and massive neck. They seem hesitant to go for the kill immediately.

Here's an example of a male killing a sub-adult, where he delivers the fatal bite, avoiding his claws and teeth.

https://africageographic.com/blog/9-lions-vs-1-leopard/
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(09-29-2018, 05:42 PM)Leopard Wrote:
(09-29-2018, 06:35 AM)Forbiddenip Wrote:
(09-28-2018, 04:54 AM)Leopard Wrote: Could this explain why lions tend to maul a male instead of going for clean bite to the neck? I've yet to find evidence where a lion killed a leopard like they do with hyena's or cheetah's.

It could be becouse of its defensive posture, making it difficult to actually for the kill but still.

There is a difference between "lion killing hyena" and "lion killing adult leopard". "Leopard killing leopard" and "leopard killing hyena". Leopards and hyenas are different animals.

Well that's why I'm wondering if it has to do with their dewlaps and massive neck. They seem hesitant to go for the kill immediately.

Here's an example of a male killing a sub-adult, where he delivers the fatal bite, avoiding his claws and teeth.

https://africageographic.com/blog/9-lions-vs-1-leopard/

I don't see the fatal bite, No video. I only saw lion that easily kills a hyena / cheetah / wild dog. Adult leopard can fight a lion. When lion wants to kill leopard. Attack of lion / Attack of leopard on hyena shows that the leopard stronger than a hyena when it comes to real fight.
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(09-21-2018, 07:19 AM)K9Boy Wrote: the biggest leopards seem to have (proportionally) bigger necks then big jaguars, but obviously the jags have far thicker heads, bodies and limbs so the neck would look  comparatively smaller.

Found this video



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This is Lucky, one of the most impressive male leopards I've seen from South Africa. He was one of the territorial males a few years ago in the hilly country in the Lyndenburg area, east of Kruger NP (which lies in the lowveld). A few sources on South African wildlife such as Frederick Vaughan Kirby and James Stevenson Hamilton have noted that the leopards from the hilly regions of the country are more heavily built than those from the lowlands. It's possible that having to traverse more hilly environments leads to more muscular bodies. 

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This big male was actually captured for study and he is said to have weighed 88kg according to an unofficial source. Can't confirm the weight at the moment but a very impressive looking leopard nonetheless. Here's a pic from his capture.

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Sri Lankan male... Fantastic speciemen

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Another Sri Lankan one

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A rather famous leopard from Sri Lanka, named Ivan. He's said to weigh 100kg

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Another Sri Lankan

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On the size of the neck of leopard.
Luke Hunter et. al. 2013(reported in opus magnum Mammals of Africa, Kingdon, 2013):


Description A large cat with robust, muscular forequarters,
slender hindquarters, relatively short legs and a long tail around twothirds
of head and body length. Head and neck thickset, especially
in males where neck circumference may exceed head circumference
by 40 mm (L.T.B. Hunter pers. obs.). Mature males often develop
a distinctive throat dewlap and, less often, an obvious belly fold.
Pelage highly variable (see colour plate in Kingdon 1977: 350),
ground colour ranges from pale cream, buff grey, various shades of
orange, tawny brown or dark rufous graduating to white on belly,
chest, throat, chin and underside of tail.

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btwn Chui very great post on possible reason of leopard neck size!
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Anderson, he's a giant

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(10-04-2018, 05:57 AM)chui Wrote: This is Lucky, one of the most impressive male leopards I've seen from South Africa. He was one of the territorial males a few years ago in the hilly country in the Lyndenburg area, east of Kruger NP (which lies in the lowveld). A few sources on South African wildlife such as Frederick Vaughan Kirby and James Stevenson Hamilton have noted that the leopards from the hilly regions of the country are more heavily built than those from the lowlands. It's possible that having to traverse more hilly environments leads to more muscular bodies. 

[Image: KXTKv7z.jpg]

This big male was actually captured for study and he is said to have weighed 88kg according to an unofficial source. Can't confirm the weight at the moment but a very impressive looking leopard nonetheless. Here's a pic from his capture.

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Great find Chui, really impressive specimen.

(10-09-2018, 08:33 PM)Leopard Wrote: Anderson, he's a giant

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He is not weighted, but knowing the other males around, and some who were weighted Anderson is 100 % sure a 95 kg plus leopard
His frame is so much bigger than the others...Camp Pan , Vin Diesel ( 97kg weighted), both tanks, but smaller frame than him
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Big male from Kruger national park

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Males from Kenya seem to turn out pretty big imo

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Last one looks massive!
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#44
You think these guys could take on lions or at least not run away so easily?
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(10-20-2018, 03:39 AM)IGOTDAPOWER Wrote: You think these guys could take on lions or at least not run away so easily?

No they'll still flee becouse they're outnumbered and outsized. But males like these sure are capable of repelling or surviving an attack. Check out the thread of 'Lions vs leopards compilation' thread and you'll see plenty of evidence.
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