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Culpeo Zorro (Andean Fox) v Fossa
#16
How big is the fossa at max because I don’t think it’s bigger than the culpeo. Also at averages for males the culpeo has a 6lb advantage if the weight range for the fossa in the op is average and not full range. Would the larger size of the culpeo make it harder for the fossa to grapple it down to deliver a killing bite
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(10-21-2018, 11:34 AM)HoundMaster Wrote: How big is the fossa at max because I don’t think it’s bigger than the culpeo. Also at averages for males the culpeo has a 6lb advantage if the weight range for the fossa in the op is average and not full range. Would the larger size of the culpeo make it harder for the fossa to grapple it down to deliver a killing bite

First off, you are overrating the culpeos armoury since the only thing it could do to harm the fossa is bite it. 
Show me where the op shows the "6lbs" size advantadge. Even for that, it is not enough for the culepo to tire out and overpower the fossa.
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(10-22-2018, 09:44 PM)Ferox Wrote:
(10-21-2018, 11:34 AM)HoundMaster Wrote: How big is the fossa at max because I don’t think it’s bigger than the culpeo. Also at averages for males the culpeo has a 6lb advantage if the weight range for the fossa in the op is average and not full range. Would the larger size of the culpeo make it harder for the fossa to grapple it down to deliver a killing bite

First off, you are overrating the culpeos armoury since the only thing it could do to harm the fossa is bite it. 
Show me where the op shows the "6lbs" size advantadge. Even for that, it is not enough for the culepo to tire out and overpower the fossa.

In the op the weight range for the fossa is 12-19lbs but the average or mean for the male culpeo is 25lbs going by that it has at least a 6lbs advantage. And I thought since in other match ups a decent size advantage over a grappling animal makes it harder to control like the sun bear v spotted hyena or dire wolf. I think nearly a third of your weight at least is sufficient enough. Plus it’s bite is strong enough to kill guanacos so why not something much smaller. 
Still can you give me a max weight for fossa if the op is not correct because this isn’t the first time you claimed at max a fossa would win over an animal with a larger max stated in the op.
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(09-14-2018, 11:04 PM)Taipan Wrote: Culpeo Zorro (Andean Fox) - Lycalopex culpaeus
The culpeo (Lycalopex culpaeus), sometimes known as the culpeo zorro or Andean fox (wolf), is a South American species of wild dog. It is the second largest native canid on the continent after the maned wolf. In its appearance it bears many similarities to the widely recognized red fox. It has grey and reddish fur, a white chin, reddish legs, and a stripe on its back that may be barely visible. The culpeo's diet consists largely of rodents, rabbits, birds and lizards, and to a lesser extent, plant material and carrion. The culpeo does attack sheep on occasion, and is therefore often hunted or poisoned. In some regions it has become rare, but overall the species is not threatened with extinction. This is a fairly large canid. The mean weight of the much larger male is 11.4 kg (25 lb), while females average 8.4 kg (19 lb). Total length can range from 82 to 152 cm (32 to 60 in), including a tail of 30 to 51 cm (12 to 20 in) in length. The pelage has a fairly attractive, grizzled appearance. The neck and shoulders are often tawny to rufous in color with the upper back is dark. The bushy tail has a black tip.

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Fossa - Cryptoprocta ferox
The fossa is a cat-like, carnivorous mammal that is endemic to Madagascar. It is a member of the Eupleridae, a family of carnivorans closely related to the mongoose family (Herpestidae). Its classification has been controversial because its physical traits resemble those of cats, yet other traits suggest a close relationship with viverrids (most civets and their relatives). Its classification, along with that of the other Malagasy carnivores, influenced hypotheses about how many times mammalian carnivores have colonized the island. With genetic studies demonstrating that the fossa and all other Malagasy carnivores are most closely related to each other (forming a clade, recognized as the family Eupleridae), carnivorans are now thought to have colonized the island once around 18 to 20 million years ago. The fossa is the largest mammalian carnivore on the island of Madagascar and has been compared to a small cougar. Adults have a head-body length of 70–80 cm (28–31 in) and weigh between 5.5–8.6 kg (12–19 lb), with the males larger than the females. It has semi-retractable claws and flexible ankles that allow it to climb up and down trees head-first, and also support jumping from tree to tree. 

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(09-14-2018, 04:51 PM)Ferox Wrote: Fossa vs Culepo

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#20
I favour the Fox here, i don't think Fossa have the experience or weaponry to deal with a larger carnivorian.
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