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Guinea Baboon
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Tibetan Macaque
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Guinea Baboon v Tibetan Macaque
Guinea Baboon - Papio papio
The Guinea baboon (Papio papio) is a baboon from the Old World monkey family. Some (older) classifications list only two species in the genus Papio, this one and the Hamadryas baboon. In those classifications, all other Papio species are considered subspecies of P. papio and the species is called the savanna baboon. The Guinea baboon inhabits a small area in western Africa. Its range is from Guinea, Senegal, Gambia, southern Mauritania and western Mali. Its habitat includes dry forests, gallery forests, and adjoining bush savannas or steppes. It has reddish brown hair, a hairless, dark-violet or black face with the typical dog-like face, which is surrounded by a small mane, and a tail carried in a round arc. It also has limb modifications that allow it to walk long distances on the ground. The Guinea baboon is the smallest baboon species, weighing between 13 and 26 kg (28.6-57 lbs). Their life span is between 35 and 45 years. It is a diurnal and terrestrial animal, but sleeps in trees at night. The number of suitable sleeping trees limits the group size and the range. It lives in troops of up to 200 individuals, each with a set place in a hierarchy. Group living provides protection from predators such as the Lion and various hyena species. Like all baboons it is omnivorous, eating fruits, buds, roots, grass, greens, seeds, tubers, leaves, nuts, cereals, insects, and small mammals. 

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Tibetan Macaque - Macaca thibetana
The Tibetan macaque (Macaca thibetana), also known as the Chinese stump-tailed macaque or Milne-Edwards' macaque, is found from eastern Tibet east to Guangdong and north to Shaanxi in China. It has also been reported from northeastern India, but this is disputed. This species lives in subtropical forests (mixed deciduous to evergreen) at altitudes from 800 to 2,500 m (2,600 to 8,200 ft) above sea level. The Tibetan macaque is the largest species of macaque and one of the largest monkeys found in Asia. Only the proboscis monkey and the larger species of gray langur come close to match their size among Asian monkeys. Males are the larger sex, commonly attain a weight of 13 to 19.5 kg (29 to 43 lb) and length of 61 to 71 cm (24 to 28 in) long, with a maximum record weight of 30 kg (66 lb). Females, in contrast, weigh 9 to 13 kg (20 to 29 lb) and measure 49 to 63 cm (19 to 25 in) long. The stump-like tail adds only 4 to 14 cm (1.6 to 5.5 in), with females having a considerably shorter tail. The fur is well-suited to the species' cold environments being long, dense and brown on the back with creamy-buff to grey coloration on the underparts. Some adults are quite dark brown on the back while others are basically a sandy yellowish brown color. They have a prominent, pale-buff beard and long whiskers, but have a hairless face. The face is pale pinkish in males but is a more vivid, reddish-pink in females.

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(01-14-2019, 11:35 PM)Fair Whisper Wrote: Tibetan macaque vs Guinea baboon
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I will go for the baboon as it has longer fangs.
(01-15-2019, 12:05 AM)Old Tibetan Blue Bear Wrote: I will go for the baboon as it has longer fangs.

It really doesn’t.
Who do you vote for ?
i go for baboon
(01-15-2019, 08:09 AM)Old Tibetan Blue Bear Wrote: Who do you vote for ?
I'm not sure. They are around the same size. Both live in complex social hierarchies where males engage in, sometimes very severe, fights to move up in rank within the group. 

They also have somewhat similar fighting styles. Although it's not the tibetan macaque, there have apparently been studies published about the about the tactics utilized in playfighting among japanese and tonkean macaques. In these fights the two adversaries utilize acrobatic twisting body rotations to face each other while attacking. Whether defending or attacking, they seem to primarily target the upper body region: biting the neck, shoulders, and upper arms. This seems to be the case with tibetan macaques as well:
Quote:The young adult (YA) males, the most active age-class in mating activity and intergroup transfer, received most of the wounds. Wounds tended to appear more in the front of body for YA and subadults (SA) than they did for middle-old aged (MO) males. This implies that some of the MO males were more active and aggressive in the fights.
Mating competition and intergroup transfer of males in Tibetan macaques (Macaca thibetana) at Mt. Emei, China

All in all, I think it's a close fight. The baboon may not have longer fangs per se, but does have a slightly wider skull and long narrow snout, which could give the edge in this fight.

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