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Mussurana
33.33%
1 33.33%
South American Bushmaster
66.67%
2 66.67%
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Mussurana v South American Bushmaster
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Mussurana - Clelia clelia
Clelia clelia, commonly known as the mussurana, is a species of snake in the family Colubridae. The species is native to the New World. Clelia clelia is found in Central America, South America, and the Lesser Antilles (including the island of Trinidad). Clelia clelia is a large snake. Adults may attain a snout-to-vent length (SVL) of 2.1 m (6.9 ft). Dorsally, adults are uniform black, gray, or olive-gray. Ventrally, adults are yellowish white. Juveniles are pale brown or red, with a black head and a yellow collar. Clelia clelia preys almost exclusively on snakes, especially venomous snakes of the genera Bothrops and Crotalus.

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South American Bushmaster - Lachesis muta muta
Lachesis muta is a venomous pit viper species found in South America (including the island of Trinidad in the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago). Two subspecies are currently recognized, including the nominate subspecies described here. Adults grow to an average of 2 to 2.5 m (6½-8 feet), although 3 m (10 feet) is not too unusual. The largest recorded specimen was almost 3.65 m (12 feet) long, making this the largest of all vipers and the longest venomous snake in the western hemisphere. Weight in this species is estimated at 3 to 5 kg (6.6 to 11.0 lb), somewhat less than the heaviest rattlesnakes or Bitis vipers. Some reports suggest that this species produces a large amount of venom that is weak compared to some other vipers. Others, however, suggest that such conclusions are not accurate. Bushmasters prey primarily on rats and mice.

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(06-13-2019, 08:05 PM)Adinda arzi Wrote: Musurana vs bushmaster snake
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#2
The longest South American Bushmaster is way longer than the mussurana according to the info provided.
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#3
Mussurana are specialist snake killers, so it certanly will know how to engage the Bushmaster. They must have some degree of immunity to venom to do so.
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The Mussurana has a lot of weapons to bring to this matchup. I used to think they were closely related to Indigo Snakes, since they look a lot alike. Indigo Snakes regularly prey on Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnakes, which may be even heavier (bigger bodied) than the Bushmaster. The Mussurana, however, unlike the Indigo Snake, is both rear-fanged, so it's slightly venomous, and it's also a constrictor. They're known to eat the highly venomous Fer De Lance pit viper regularly, being immune to their venom, so I think they would be at least partially immune to another pit viper with less toxic venom. At max sizes the Bushmaster may be too big, but at parity I heavily favor the Mussurana.
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#5
Clelia are really impressive snaks killers, but bushmaster are massive, I think a large Bushmaster would be a handful.

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I think the Bushmaster is to big, at parity It'll win Max weights Bushmaster wins.
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Due to the fact that Clelia feeds on members of Bothrops and Crotalus, some  resistance to these venoms, and perhaps the venoms of Lachesis, could be expected. I suspect that this, is to what the king snakes and indigo snakes of north america are to the rattlesnakes; they can prey upon them when the oppurtunity presents itself, but maybe the very big Lachesis are off the table, though these kinds of strongly ophiophagic colubrid snakes have shown a regular habit of preying on snakes their length, if not longer.
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