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American Bald Eagle
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Golden Eagle
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American Bald Eagle v Golden Eagle
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American Bald Eagle - Haliaeetus leucocephalus
The Bald Eagle (Haliaeetus leucocephalus) is a bird of prey found in North America. It is the national bird and symbol of the United States of America. This sea eagle has two known sub-species and forms a species pair with the White-tailed Eagle. Its range includes most of Canada and Alaska, all of the contiguous United States, and northern Mexico. It is found near large bodies of open water with an abundant food supply and old-growth trees for nesting. The plumage of the immature is brown, speckled with white until the fifth (rarely fourth, very rarely third) year, when it reaches sexual maturity. Immature Bald Eagles are distinguishable from the Golden Eagle in that the former has a more protruding head with a larger beak, straighter edged wings which are held flat (not slightly raised) and with a stiffer wing beat, and feathers which do not completely cover the legs. The Bald Eagle has sometimes been considered the largest true raptor in North America (excluding the possibly unrelated California Condor), although the species overlaps in size with the American races of the Golden Eagle.[6] It is certainly a large bird, with a body length of 70–102 centimeters (28–40 in). The wingspan is typically between 1.8 and 2.3 m (5.9 and 7.5 ft) and mass is usually between 2.5 and 7 kilograms (5.5 and 15 lb). Females are about 25 percent larger than males, averaging 5.8 kg (13 lb) and against the males' average weight of 4.1 kg (9.0 lb). The size of the bird varies by location; the smallest specimens are those from Florida, where mature males may weigh as little as 2.3 kg (5.1 lb) and have a wingspan of 1.68 m (5.5 ft). The largest eagles are from Alaska, where large females may weigh up to 7.5 kg (17 lb) and span 2.44 m (8.0 ft) across the wings.

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Golden Eagle - Aquila chrysaetos
The Golden Eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) is one of the best known birds of prey in the Northern Hemisphere. Like all eagles, it belongs to the family Accipitridae. Once widespread across the Holarctic, it has disappeared from many of the more heavily populated areas. Despite being extirpated from some its former range or uncommon, the species is still fairly ubiquitous, being present in Eurasia, North America, and parts of Africa. The highest density of nesting Golden Eagles in the world lies in southern Alameda County, California. These birds are dark brown, with lighter golden-brown plumage on their heads and necks. The Golden Eagle is a large, dark brown raptor with broad wings. Its size is variable: it ranges from 66 to 100 cm (26 to 39 in) in length and it has a typical wingspan of 1.8 to 2.34 m (5.9 to 7.7 ft). In the largest race (A. c. daphanea) males and females weigh 4.05 kg (8.9 lb) and 6.35 kg (14.0 lb). In the smallest subspecies (A. c. japonensis), the sexes weigh, respectively, 2.5 kg (5.5 lb) and 3.25 kg (7.2 lb). The maximum size of this species is a matter of some debate, although the normal upper weight limit for a large female is around 6.8 kg (15 lb) and large races are the heaviest representatives of the Aquila genus.

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#2
No, Golden Eagles are not dominant over Bald Eagles. Before we get into any of that though I’d like to leave this here as a testament Bald Eagles can be just as tenacious as Golden’s.

Quote:The bald eagle will defend its nest fiercely from all comers and has even repelled attacks from bears, having been recorded knocking a black bear out of a tree when the latter tried to climb a tree holding nestlings.
Source is Bald Eagle attacks a Black Bear at Redoubt Bay. Moving on to nip this incorrect assumption that Golden Eagles > Bald Eagles because they take larger prey (usually).
Quote:Regarding their flying abilities, despite being morphologically less well adapted to faster flight than golden eagles (especially during dives), the bald eagle is considered surprisingly maneuverable in flight, bounty hunters shooting from helicopters opined that they were far more difficult to hunt while flying than golden eagles as they would turn, double back or dive as soon as approached.
Handbook of American Birds - Diurnal Raptors

Bald Eagles are known Kleptoparasites, meaning they regularly steal kills from other animals whether it be badgers, foxes, other eagles or even coyotes. They have a bully mentality that is much more prominent than seen in GE. The link below documents an Adult BE and GE fighting for a prolonged period of time upon which the Bald Eagle won. Bald Eagles are known to force Golden Eagles off kills on multiple occasions and even win fights against them. They don’t need to hunt big game often when they’re clearly capable of just beating up the “superior hunter” rather commonly. Golden Eagles are also known to avoid BE nesting sights and are not recorded as dominant over them in a lot of literature. If anything they’re about evenly matched despite the BE having smaller talons.

This fight is 50/50 but if I had to pick I’d favor the Bald Eagle. It strikes me as the superior fighter based off evidence while the Golden Eagle is the superior hunter. Cause who needs to hunt when you can just let another Eagle do it and take their kill?

Edit - forgot the link.
https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files...p00120.pdf

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n the shot captured and shared by Reddit user blutausbeherit, a bald eagle refuses to back down from a deer carcass, taking on a coyote for the rights to the kill.
According to blutausbeherit, the shot was taken by a trail cam at the Pennsylvania state forest office where he works. The agency picks up roadkill deer, and deposits them near the forest with trail cams set up in order to study golden eagles. In this case, however, it picked up the scrap between two scavengers.
No news on who came out on top at the end of the fight, but some could say the true winner was the raven in the foreground. While the two predators distract each other, the opportunistic bird is allowed to enjoy the meal at his leisure. The raven is proof that in nature, the spoils don't always go to the biggest or meanest animal, but the one which is most clever.”

Granted no winner was stated but this further showcases Bald Eagle’s are bullies.
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#3
Golden eagle has bigger talons then bald eagle. I saw the interaction between them where golden eagle mostly dominates. IMO golden eagle win this fight due to larger talons.

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Except you haven’t cause just last week you tried posting a video that was actually a baby bald eagle dominating an adult bald eagle.
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#5
The golden eagle wins because I like it more.

Edit: it's actually probably 50/50 but I voted golden eagle because I like it more.
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#6
Quote:Golden eagles are formidable predators in Alaska. Bigger and more aggressive than bald eagles, golden eagles prey on young Dall sheep and caribou - and can take even larger prey.

“They’re built for killing,” said Fairbanks wildlife biologist Jack Whitman, who studied golden eagles in Idaho. “Comparing their physical strength and food habits to bald eagles, the golden eagle is an aggressive, successful predator, and the bald eagle is a really good scavenger. How often do you see a golden eagle at a garbage dump?”
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adf...cles_id=94

Bald Eagle Talons:

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(Yesterday, 06:48 AM)Black Ice Wrote: Except you haven’t cause just last week you tried posting a video that was actually a baby bald eagle dominating an adult bald eagle.

Alright but still golden eagle far better hunter and fighter then bald eagle. They do dominate more larger fishing eagle so called Steller eagle, so there is no doubt about the domination against the smaller bald.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=65NM9pLoUJw&t=9s





(Yesterday, 08:48 PM)Taipan Wrote:
Quote:Golden eagles are formidable predators in Alaska. Bigger and more aggressive than bald eagles, golden eagles prey on young Dall sheep and caribou - and can take even larger prey.

“They’re built for killing,” said Fairbanks wildlife biologist Jack Whitman, who studied golden eagles in Idaho. “Comparing their physical strength and food habits to bald eagles, the golden eagle is an aggressive, successful predator, and the bald eagle is a really good scavenger. How often do you see a golden eagle at a garbage dump?”
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adf...cles_id=94

Bald Eagle Talons:

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Golden Eagle Talons:

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Agree with you word to word above.
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Golden eagles do fight hard against steller's sea eagles which are the largest and most aggressive fish eagles.
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"Overall, interspecific confrontations between eagles at feeding sites were rare. Golden Eagles were seen at only 25% (N = 87) of the carcasses visited by Bald Eagles and were present <22% of the time (N -- 239 hr) at feeding sites of marked birds. Based on the incidents of 17 and 24 January, we believe that Bald Eagles may occasionally steal prey from Golden Eagles, which contrasts with the dominant position Golden Eagles appear to have in some Bald Eagle winter roosts (Lish 1973). "
source: AGONISTIC ENCOUNTERS BETWEEN BALD EAGLES AND OTHER RAPTORS WINTERING IN WESTCENTRAL UTAH 
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(Yesterday, 11:33 PM)OldGreenVulture Wrote: Golden eagles do fight hard against steller's sea eagles which are the largest and most aggressive fish eagles.

Stellar’s Sea Eagle’s generally beat the stuffing out of Golden Eagles lol

(Yesterday, 08:48 PM)Taipan Wrote:
Quote:Golden eagles are formidable predators in Alaska. Bigger and more aggressive than bald eagles, golden eagles prey on young Dall sheep and caribou - and can take even larger prey.

“They’re built for killing,” said Fairbanks wildlife biologist Jack Whitman, who studied golden eagles in Idaho. “Comparing their physical strength and food habits to bald eagles, the golden eagle is an aggressive, successful predator, and the bald eagle is a really good scavenger. How often do you see a golden eagle at a garbage dump?”
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adf...cles_id=94

Bald Eagle Talons:

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Golden Eagle Talons:

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The problem with this is that Bald Eagles are usually bigger than Golden Eagles, have been recorded attacking and killing large prey with the same amount of competence as Golden Eagles, and has been known to beat up and steal kills from Golden Eagles.

The stuff that guy said should honestly be disregarded as he clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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#11
I posted an account on the old forum, that has been floating around the new forum
as well, of a White tail Eagle being more than likely killed by a Golden Eagle.

White Tail Eagles are much like Bald Eagles, with the exception of them being
the more capable hunters of terrestrial prey. In scuffles over food @ carcasses,
the BE may be on par with the GE, but in a serious encounter-I would favor
the GE to actually kill the Bald...
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